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spending. wonder why he wore red, but i digress. house minority leader nancy pelosi using props to deliver pretty much-- >> more than 20 million children will have reduced food and nutrition benefits. merry christmas to you and yours. 1 1.7 sick million seniors will lose meals on wheels. happy holidays to you. >> neil: 330 million americans will face a recession, happy holiday to you. no wonder why nothing else is getting down. today, charles payne, adam lashinsky, charlie gasperino gerri willis. >> i'm used to by nancy pelosi. overarching democrats, anything that republicans want to do that smacks of fiscal responsibility is mean-spirited. beyond mean-spirited they hate, children, hate seniors, hate, hate, hate. just in the name of getting the country fixed up so we have longevity and continued prosperity. it's a terrible way for someone in that power position to govern, i really think so. >> neil: it's a tough way to come back to the negotiating table from the other side. >> exactly, where are they? they went home. where are our leaders, a pox on both of your houses is what i say. they'r
the policies of nancy pelosi, if you just compare them, technocratically speaking, nancy pelosi never lost a vote. she never once got so confused and lost control of the group she was supposed to be leading, she never got caught out saying something was going to pass. she never put up something to pass and had it fail. whether or not you like what nancy pelosi stands for, as a speaker of the house, nancy pelosi was good at her job. john boehner is not good at his job. we've ventured this as a hypothesis very early on in his speakership, i mean right from the beginning. it seemed like there might be something amiss, right? on the first day as speaker, he tried to have republicans pull off the stunt where they would read the whole constitution from the floor of the house. but even on day one, john boehner could not manage his own symbolic gesture. they skipped parts of the constitution. they skipped parts they did not like. and some parts they skipped because they were reading it out of a loose leaf binder and the pages stuck together. right then we should have known that was a bad sign. joh
congressional leaders. reid, mcconnell, boehner and pelosi. . joining me to talk more, we have peter alexander standing by at the white house as well as nbc's mike viqueira on capitol hill. some verbal smackdown, basically flipping the lights back on and harry reid taking to the floor to eviscerate speaker boehner. >> the sad part is you often seen the floor opened that way. mitch mcconnell being later today. i'm sure we'll hear something later. to hear it two days after christmas and a matter of days before we go through the fiscal cliff, obviously not encouraging. harry reid says time is running hout. he doesn't know if they could go through the legislative hurdles. if they have the votes around here, they can legislate the sky is green and the grass is blue. that's not an issue. what harry reid is really saying is mitch mcconnell, get on board, don't try to filibuster. of course they're talking about a bill that had raise capital on couples making more than $250,000 a year, and do a few other nuts and bolts that are deemed the bare minimum that the president wants to see done before we hit
pelosi and we saw this in 2009 and 2010 is actually fear. they don't fear congressman boehner. they don't fear him at all if they go break their own way and that is one of the reasons why you end up having people who seem to be revolting like congressman huelskamp. >> one other thing that a speaker does not have or even a minority leader anymore is earmarks which were these targeted spending gifts in effect to a house number that could be persuasive. >> right. the carrots and the sticks. >> yes. >> thank you very much. lynn and mark. we'll talk to you later this hour. stick around. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up, it's election day in egypt and we'll get a live report from cairo and how the constitution has polarized that nation. plus ben affleck on capitol hill for good and what the actor is saying for now and not saying about a possible run for senate. ♪ ♪ ♪ copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair c
this out, you know that john boehner and nancy pelosi and the wimps in the chambers are trying to figure it out. the right combination of the income threshold for tax increases with entitlement cuts, we haven't found it. the theory that republicans only want to pass something with the majority, that worked for haster when he was speaker. it's hard to see what kind of tax increase will get a majority of republicans and bring along enough democrats. boehner couldn't pass a million dollar tax increase. why do we think he can get something out of the house if they lower it to 400,000 or 500,000. we are skeptical that they can come together with the solution in the next five or six days. >> marty, we spent a lot of time talking about the house. what is mitch mcconnell thinking in the senate? >> he is a fascinating part of this. first of all, he is probably going to vote against any deal that raises taxes. whether he actively whips against it or lets it go, there is a number of senate republicans who seem open to upper income tax increases. some of the new england moderates, scott brown and su
, but it's to nancy pelosi's point we're going to find out and i hope we like it. a lot of taxes associated with obamacare. you mentioned the medical device issue, a lot of these companies, by the way, medical device companies have been laying off workers right now. and that is, if this impacts, by the way, everyone, takes away from research and development, which will take away from life saving innovation and it's just, again, the very tip of the iceberg. ultimately, there's going to be a whole lot of taxes that just opens the gate for. this is just the beginning. >> ben, even if you look at action taken by the medical device makers, there's already damage that's been done by the tax increases built into this health care law, has it got? >> well, the damage is built in, but on the other hand good built into, too. there are people who are very poor who won't be able to get health insurance and not very, between medicaid and middle class and we'll be able to get health insurance, or some, overall, obviously, i don't like the bill. i don't think any sensible person would like the obamacare bi
and nancy pelosi leading republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. no deal can be reached in past without their cooperation. with the meeting comes a glimmer of hope. in the past all the ifisical cliff talks meetings like this have been the least productive of all. whether he meant to or not the senate majority leader may have spoken for a nation exhausted by seemingly endless fiscal cliff negotiations. >> what's going on here? >> reporter: what indeed. president obama returned to the white house in a grim mood. he met with no congressional leaders and said nothing about his efforts to avert the fiscal cliff, talks continue between senior white house and congressional staff, but that's been true throughout this entire saga. with the deadline looming there were dire predictions. >> come the first of this year americans will have less income than they have today. >> reporter: and recriminations. >> now republicans have bent over backwards. we stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. >> reporter: the senate's top dem
. the leader, speaker john boehner and the approval rating is lower than speaker pelosi. who is a vampire. 51% boehner unfavorable. juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many works he has. >> juan: he works for boehner. >> kimberly: but he goes back -- it was a mess. >> juan: the dynamic didn't make sense. this goes back to what eric said. he, what everybody on the far right side why am i not going to put a vote in place not coming to reality. there >> exactly. no way, true conservative doesn't want taxes to go up. >> juan: but this is where we differ. negotiate and compromise if you care about the country and the economy at some point. i have been elected
conservative conference that may not coming to to vote on something, even if nancy pelosi can corral the democrats, they need to pick off republicans. we don't know if any of them would vote for something like this. john boehner is ready to strike a deal. i'm not sure many others are. in the senate we have seen a number of conservative republicans saying they would vote. >> 20 republican votes? >> at this point it's very hard to say. i think john boehner would probably be trying to go in that direction if he could. we haven't seen enough house republicans come out yet and say they would support tax increases. if you have tom coal who broke with his party leadership and the party ranks about three weeks ago or so. we haven't seen enough say they would. i don't know that that's the right deal for that to try to strike. >> one of the strategies that republicans could very well allow us to go off the fiscal cliff. a few weeks into january they decide to take the vote on lowering taxes. lowering the race so they can say you know what, we voted to lower taxes. >> that's something that has
that reid and mcconnell can come up with some type of proposal, and working with pelosi in the house, to see what's realistic to get through the house. if there is a vote in the senate. if it makes its way through the senate, the calculation, house republicans would feel a fair amount of pressure to vote this into law. why? because of the dead line? it would have gotten support in the senate. in an effort, it's boxing republicans in. will it work? we'll have to see. part of the calculation, if there is a piece of legislation will make it through the senate, the house will be responsible for voting this down at a critical time and ramp up the pressure to get something done. we'll have to see if that calculation works or even if reid and mcconnell can come up with a plan they think can make it through the senate. a lot of question marks still. >> still. three days away, and we didn't know sth was co know it was coming is what it's like. thank you, kristen. >> let's turn to jon harwood. sir, no more big deal. is this a little deal? we'll have to do something else in a month or two. what is this
to deliver his own votes but isn't particularly interested in working with nancy pelosi to get moderate democrats onboard. again, we are talking about very symbolic things. i think john boehner is far more interested in preserving his speakership, waiting until we go over the cliff and everyone can blame each other all the way through. it would be better for everyone if we didn't have discussions about social insurance and/or entitlements at gunpoint with two days to >> that's the views from -- a very -- very strong conservative voice. >> that's giving the president a lot of credit here. the president wants a deal, doesn't want to go into the second term, january with the fiscal cliff looming and dealing with the cpi or, you know, raising the medicare eligibility. doesn't want the discussions to cloud up his other agenda, rest of his agenda, things like immigration. gun control if that does survive into the new year. so -- right now looking at some of the things that have been floated -- that -- that harvard from reported basically that's the president getting stimulus aspects of it. th
boehner said. wisest words of anyone in the house of representatives handing the gavel to nancy pelosi to be speaker of the house after republicans lost that 2006 election. he said, my party forgot that powers to be used for the good of the people and not for power's sake. that's what they have to remember. now, as far as that fiscal cliff, they can withhold the tax schedule changes. they're able like in defense, when you have a defense cut or a defense cut like that, it takes place over three to four years. it doesn't all happen this figs year. what we want is a bunny slope not a cliff so the damage is not great as long as we are able to take the short-term deal that david spoke about. what everyone is looking for, consumer and business investor is certainty. congress generates the political will with the president to address our problem. both in the grand scheme so we get $4 trillion in debt reduction over a year and second in the short term and don't have a gross domestic product grow at zee ro over the year. >> when you think about this entire issue, there is the gop caucus and the
of the simpson-bowles plan, not good enough. in the second part of the proposal he took part of what nancy pelosi offered may of this year to raise taxes of 1 million and above. what has the president offered? and basically jamie with both proposals in ten years we're still going to have 21 trillion dollars worth of debt. >> jamie: angela. >> both proposals-- yes? >> not every republican agrees with speaker boehner on the compromise so there's pushback on both sides from democrats who control the senate and from the president and from some fellow residentiapublicans we taken a step back? i want to ask both of you, angela first. >> here is the rub, president obama knows nothing about being a great legislator and the tea party doesn't either. it's great to run on principle and sign a pledge you won't raise taxes, but in d.c., jamie, you have to compromise. ronald reagan figured that out, bill clinton figured that out, lbj was with the civil rights legislation figured that out. both sides need to come together again, it's on president obama, harry reid and the tea party. >> jamie: let's get michael
pelosi, chuck schumer, they are not going to cut spending. >> sean: how about the republicans? >> i hope the next time the republicans don't get rolled like they will be rolled the next 48 hours. >> sean: in one sense, joe, i got to give your president a lot of credit. he went out there, went out campaigning. he does a really good job blaming the republicans. he was able to frame the debate about taxes against the rich. not on his reckless spending. as a politician, he is pretty -- he is pretty amazing. in terms of governing, he is horrible. this is not good long-term for this country. >> well, look, the president was very clear in two campaigns now about raising taxes on the top 2%. he was clear. and he and romney had that thing -- had that out. and he won on that platform, sean. i mean he fair and square he won on it. and he is going to make -- >> sean: so if the republicans. >> 2.5 in spending cuts. right now it is one-to-one or less. he didn't keep his promise on that he, joe trippi and you know it. >> 2.5 to one. >> there was a trillion dollars in cuts already that he agreed to when
, and pelosi tomorrow? >> reporter: that's the most festive image we have seen come from washington, d.c., is the president with his cute dog outside the rose garden, but frankly, karen, the political paralysis still exists here right now. there were reports earlier today that you noted coming from the hill, scott brown among others saying the white house was sending up a new proposal. the white house says that's certainly not the case. there were reports the white house was inviting all four congressional leaders here to the white house for a private meeting tomorrow to try to push this thing through to avert the fiscal cliff. the white house says as of this moment there is no meeting scheduled for tomorrow. we sort of remained where we were when the president first arrived here. in the eyes of the white house it's in the hands of the republicans at the capital, up to mitch mcconnell not to filibuster a bill already there and up to john boehner to allow a vote in the house. >> peter, publicly obviously we're seeing a lot of back and fort between republicans and democrats, but privatel
the aisle to leader pelosi and the democrats and say okay, i -- i might have 50 people who disagree with me. but i have 200 people who agree with me. let's come up with a compromise. let's try to get 50 or 100 or 150 democrats. that's what -- that's what our constituents think they are electing us to do, go work in a bipartisan basis. but because of the rules of the house, speaker boehner just keeps saying i'm ignoring the democrats. i'm going to try to put together a plan that will appeal just to republicans. and that's where he's -- that's where he is running into this brick wall. >> all right. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >>> here's one take on the fiscal cliff. john boehner's animal house. we are bogey to talk to "the washington post" writer who says in boehner's house the animals are rampaging. what's that mean? we will have an answer for you in the next half hour. >>> nasty weather is lingering just before christmas. aaa predicts 93 million of us will be traveling long distances over the holidays. that includes those that are flying. with a hello to you. how is it lo
. this meeting brings together all the key players. president obama, top leaders harry read and nancy pelosi and mitch mcconnell and him. it was only a short while ago that john boehner was called a dictator. with the deadline looming the goal appears to be to shield most american taxpayers from automatic tax increase. now, the president's already agreed to raise income taxes on americans earning more than $400,000. that's up from his $250,000 goal set in the campaign, and there's also an effort to extend jobless pen fits for americans out of work for six months or more. >> major, do we have any reason to believe that this time it is different? >> well, certainly. the deadline is real. the house is coming back into session on sunday. even is going to be here either to preside over america going over the fiscal cliff or last-minute very small deal that averted for a while and leaves more negotiations for the future. >> major garrett, thank you very much. general norman schwarzkopf, commander of the coalition for the gulf war died yesterday. he tricked and outflanked saddam hussein's forces in
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